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Tuesday, September 09, 2014

Where is the proof?

Where is the proof?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/obama-robert-kagan-appeasement-1930s/379780/
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Everyone has—or should have—a list of the commentators they disagree with fundamentally but nonetheless admire. When it comes to foreign policy, Robert Kagan tops mine. First, because Kagan knows the difference between being a hawk and being a Republican. His worldview is consistent but his view of the two parties is not. In the mid-1990s, for instance, he supported Bill Clinton's war in Bosnia and harshly criticized the GOP Congress for not offering more support. Second, because Kagan knows far more American history than your average Beltway pundit. Several years back, he even took a semi-sabbatical from current affairs to get a Ph.D.     
But Kagan's essay for The Wall Street Journal this weekend illustrates the danger of being so entranced by historical example that it blinds you to contemporary reality. Kagan's basic point is that today, as after World War I, the West's war fatigue is leading it to appease dangerous adversaries. "As we head deeper into our version of the 1930s," he writes, "we may be quite shocked, just as our forebears were, at how quickly things fall apart."
If that sounds familiar, it should. For Kagan, the 1990s were "our version" of the 1930s too. "At the end of this bloody century, we all should have learned that appeasement, even when disguised as engagement, doesn't work," he wrote in a 1998 critique of Clinton's China policy. "The word that best describes Clinton administration policy," he wrote in an editorial with William Kristol the following year, "is appeasement." ""
""There's only one sense in which American elites have "come close to concluding … that war is … ineffective." They're far more reluctant than they were in 2003, or even 2009, to wage land wars. But does that really constitute appeasement? "".  

Yes!
Democrats are constantly demanding proof, except when we are supposed to connect the dots. Democrats have appeasement in their DNA. When Obama assured he would be flexible to Putin's man " after his reelection" he was talking appeasement.
Proof needed to conduct a prosecution would be hard to find with the whole of the federal government in stonewall mode. To be safe our standards of proof are different on the world stage. Being paranoid is a requirement. Assuming the worst (even while hoping for the best), is required for survival. Are the Democrats appeasers? It is a safe assumption.

In conclusion, says the author ""

And why shouldn’t Americans be more skeptical of land wars after the disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan? Kagan doesn’t say. For a man so keen that Americans learn from the experience of the 1930s, he’s strikingly uninterested in the experience of the last decade. He doesn’t defend the Iraq or Afghan wars. He doesn’t even suggest that the U.S. should send ground troops into Iraq, Syria, or Ukraine today. He simply suggests that Americans who oppose new land wars because of our recent, painful experience are latter-day Neville Chamberlains. ""

That is: we are appeasers and damn proud of it




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